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Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1583	Posted - 2017.03.20 20:05:05 - [1] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: Salvos Rhoska wrote: Post-change, you dont have to worry about blops reking your cyno. Blops aren't reking cynos. They use cynos to squash gatecamp. Your though process is all over the place man... He doesn't understand cyno, he's shown that before when he thought you cyno off grid and then warp to the target, giving them plenty of time with d-scan to know what you have and warp out. Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1585	Posted - 2017.03.22 18:51:00 - [2] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: Orakkus wrote: In addition, in order to make Low-sec more viable it NEEDS cynos and caps. It needs to develop an industrial base, and you can't have that if you can't import and export materials and goods. And you can't have an industrial base without people, and you can't have people without some measure of safety and convenience. And once you have more people, then and only then do you get more content. Explain how LS industry cant be viable without cynos or caps. Once cynos/caps are removed, your import/export is improved, as you dont need to fear cyno/cap drops that grossly exceed your effort or capacity to deal with them. Subcaps will be sufficient, and its far easier to find sub-cap players, than cap players. If you can't get your goods to market, there's no point manufacturing. Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1586	Posted - 2017.03.22 19:10:37 - [3] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: If you can't get your goods to market, there's no point manufacturing. Every system has a market. Not every system has customers. Think Salvos. I know it's hard for you, but you can't sell goods to non-existing customers, hence the need to move goods to where they can be sold. To not understand this.. no surprise. Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1587	Posted - 2017.03.22 19:16:44 - [4] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: Sorry you can no longer lol-cyno past them. We can't. When did this change happen? Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1587	Posted - 2017.03.22 19:19:28 - [5] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: Not every system has customers. Every system has customers. Liar. That statement is so full of **** and it is deliberate. Such a pointless stupid discussion. The usual stuff from you. Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1588	Posted - 2017.03.23 19:54:24 - [6] - Quote Maximillian Bonaparte wrote: From what I have been told the convoys of freighter traffic were always a nightmare to setup requiring days of full-time preparation. Besides how long ago was that? Was it when the eve population was half what it is today?. No, no. Clearly it was such good game content and everyone loved the play around it so much, that CCP removed it... Herzeg sees everything through rose coloured glasses if it's something he approves of and everything else is just griefing. Old content that most people hated; and that had a huge negative impact on industry in lowsec and nullsec, is good....because it's Ye olde content. It's a very selective memory thing. Jump Freighters were introduced into the game in the Trinity expansion in 2007. Apparently only the game back before 2007 was 'real piracy', Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1591	Posted - 2017.03.27 06:46:00 - [7] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: Removing cynos/caps from LS will increase PvP content, not reduce it. Bullshit. Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1593	Posted - 2017.03.27 07:18:14 - [8] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: Salvos Rhoska wrote: Removing cynos/caps from LS will increase PvP content, not reduce it. Bullshit. When material is forced to gate transit, rather than lol-cyno past it, its undeniable this means more PvP surface in LS. No it doesn't. It means less industry and market activity in lowsec. Nothing more. Lowsec players will stage adjacent to highsec and have alts buy in highsec. Nullsec will just manage their manufacturing in nullsec if big enough, and small groups will die out in certain areas. That's the effect of your dumb suggestion. Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1594	Posted - 2017.03.27 08:48:15 - [9] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: Just gates instesd of lol-cynoing. Simple as that. Bullshit. Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1596	Posted - 2017.03.27 19:05:49 - [10] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: Scialt wrote: The only people actually helped by the idea... are gate campers. Then give me a better solution to preventing HS<->NS lol-cyno transit through LS What is the point to LS when material can lol-cyno through it, and LS can be crushed by NS at anytime if they bother? No 'solution' is needed, because it's no a problem to begin with. It's only in your small mind that there is an issue. Cynos provide far more content then they remove, especially in facilitating convenient logistics resupply of lost PvP ships as well as the ability to move products to markets where they can sell them so they have the ISK to do so. There is no downside to cynos in lowsec. Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."

Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1598	Posted - 2017.03.28 04:21:37 - [11] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: Cynos provide far more content then they remove. JFs lol-cynoing through LS with billions in cargo provide no content to LS. Just provides convenient profit for entities running them, with a negligible chance of interception in LS. The ships they carry do, you idiot. I am amazed at your inability to grasp even basics. Without those ships being moved, content dries up. Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1603	Posted - 2017.03.28 12:32:03 - [12] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: ...and strongly favoring NS neighbors. Lol wat? Cynos in lowsec favours NS capitals? Do you even follow what happens in the game? This should be good. Post your evidence of NS groups being favoured by their ability to jump capitals into LS. I bet for every LS group loss you can pull out, I can pull out at least 10 losses by NS groups instead. LS groups hand NS their ass whenever they jump into LS. Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1603	Posted - 2017.03.28 12:56:28 - [13] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: LS groups hand NS their ass whenever they jump into LS. So why then are JFs cynoing nonstop over LS between NS-HS? Your shilling is getting tiresome and all too obvious. Use your brain. Troll better. You are way behind. Bad move completely ignoring my previous post to you. That reddit-tier bullshit doesnt fly here. Your cover is blown. Protip: JFs are caps. JFs are not Capitals. But, post your evidence of this advantage that NS groups have over LS by being able to jump capitals into lowsec. I bet you can't because you don't know what you are talking about. Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1603	Posted - 2017.03.28 13:08:40 - [14] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: Salvos Rhoska wrote: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: LS groups hand NS their ass whenever they jump into LS. So why then are JFs cynoing nonstop over LS between NS-HS? Your shilling is getting tiresome and all too obvious. Use your brain. Troll better. You are way behind. Bad move completely ignoring my previous post to you. That reddit-tier bullshit doesnt fly here. Your cover is blown. Protip: JFs are caps. JFs are not Capitals. But, post your evidence of this advantage that NS groups have over LS by being able to jump capitals into lowsec. I bet you can't because you don't know what you are talking about. JFs are caps. Are you seriously trying to claim LS can field more caps than NS? NS caps can drop on LS and even gate back out, whereas LS cap drops in NS must deal with bubbles for non-cyno exit. Your entire premise is ridiculous. Furthernore, none of this refutes the fact cynoing JFs are making a mockery of LS. You are just digging a deeper hole for yourself. And again you ignored the posts to you, shill. This isnt reddit. You will be called to answer. Post your evidence. You made a claim. Prove it. Otherwise, it's like all your other arguments. Just made up in your head and no reflection of what happens in the game. So put up or shut up. Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1603	Posted - 2017.03.28 13:20:25 - [15] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: You made a claim. No. YOU made the claim that LS can field more caps and wreck NS drops. Not me. YOU. Once again, bullshit from the biggest bullshitter in the forum. your claim is that NS has an advantage over LS. Post #631: Secondary problem is caps in LS, especially with cyno, as overkill, and strongly favoring NS neighbors. Prove it. Otherwise, as usual, you are full of ****. I've already said, that for every LS loss you can post cause by a NS group with capitals, I'll post 10 that are the other way. You simply can't prove what you say. Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1603	Posted - 2017.03.28 13:33:41 - [16] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: Salvos Rhoska wrote: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: You made a claim. No. YOU made the claim that LS can field more caps and wreck NS drops. Not me. YOU. Once again, bullshit from the biggest bullshitter in the forum. your claim is that NS has an advantage over LS. Post #631: Secondary problem is caps in LS, especially with cyno, as overkill, and strongly favoring NS neighbors. Prove it. Otherwise, as usual, you are full of **. Caps are not required to clear LS local content. Cynos also are not necessary, due to lack of bubbles on gate transit. NS has far more cap capacity, than LS. NS furthermore, can cyno into LS and gate back out. Whereas a LS cap fleet cynoing into NS must deal with bubbles to gate to LS. Claim substantiated and answered. You haven't substantiated with anything other than fiction. Show us the kills Salvos. Put evidence, not opinion. If what you claim is true, it'll be easy to substantiate. Otherwise, you are full of **. I already k ow which it is. Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1603	Posted - 2017.03.28 13:40:54 - [17] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: Snip Show me how: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: LS groups hand NS their ass whenever they jump into LS. Show me how each JF from NS gets its ass handed to it by LS. Jump Freighters are not capitals and that has nothing to do with your bullshit claim. You can try to change the subject to divert away from your complete inability to post any evidence to support what you claim, but it won't work. Post the kills Salvos. Post the evidence that supports your claim. As before, put up, or shut up. Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1603	Posted - 2017.03.28 13:52:25 - [18] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: LS groups hand NS their ass whenever they jump into LS. Show me how each and every JF from NS gets its ass handed to it. Jump Freighters are not Capitals and that has nothing to do with your bullshit claim. Prove what you claimed. You aren't going to take this off track. Prove it, or don't prove it. Can't prove it is the conclusion. You're here peddling lies and using them as a basis to support your dumb idea. Lies are still just lies. They do t support anything but the opposite of what they say. Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1611	Posted - 2017.03.29 19:11:39 - [19] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: Secondary problem is caps in LS, especially with cyno, as overkill, and strongly favoring NS neighbors. Since you're back here at this thread, where is your evidence that proves this claim? Are you going to provide it, or just continue to argue for something based on lies? Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1611	Posted - 2017.03.29 19:20:40 - [20] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: Salvos Rhoska wrote: Secondary problem is caps in LS, especially with cyno, as overkill, and strongly favoring NS neighbors. Since you're back here at this thread, where is your evidence that proves this claim? Are you going to provide it, or just continue to argue for something based on lies? LS PvE content does not require caps. LS hauling does not require cynos. LS gatecamps do not require caps. LS cynos bypass LS gates. NS has far more caps than LS. Your move. PS: Lol at me "being back" in this thread. I never left. That is no evidence, just more typical rambling. Show us the kills that demonstrate that cynos strongly favour NS neighbours over LS. Evidence, not just further opinion. If it is "strongly favouring NS", it should be easy to prove. Where's the evidence? Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."

Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1611	Posted - 2017.03.29 19:28:56 - [21] - Quote Zanar Skwigelf wrote: Salvos Rhoska wrote: Zanar Skwigelf wrote: the null alliances get to continue jumping right past low. No. This must end. They can gate transit through it like everyone else if they want access to HS. And direct connections between high and null? Also, what about all the null systems within jump range of the Jita undock? Seems kind of silly that a ships jump range is 10 ly unless you are in high sec, then its 10 ly or the nearest low sec system. Rhea jump range from Jita Geminate Vale of the Silent Tribute That's his thing, this isn't about stopping NS from jumping straight past LS. As you've just shown, it'll still be totally possible, even direct from Jita. There are other HS systems you could go to that would allow you to totally bypass LS as well. There'd still be nearly 0 need to go through LS with his dumb proposal. It's just Salvos being butthurt over NS groups and wanting to destroy them in a stupid way that will be ineffective and only destroy LS industry and markets and remove content from LS. All based on lies of his. Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1611	Posted - 2017.03.29 19:34:41 - [22] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: Where's the evidence? This isn't a dissertation. If you can refute any of the observations I made, go ahead and do so. I can: there is no evidence and your claims are lies. Here is the evidence to support your claim: See, doesnt exist. You are wrong. So we can finally conclude that now. You're arguments are not supportable by anything that shows you are correct. Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1612	Posted - 2017.03.29 22:23:01 - [23] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: your claims are lies. Prove that. Despite being asked multiple times to show evidence that proves your claim, you haven't. That is proof enough. No evidence available is itself proof that your claims cannot be supported and are nothing but lies. Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1613	Posted - 2017.03.30 06:55:46 - [24] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: You are inferring things that have not been said. You immediately assumed "strongly favouring" meant only current rates of LS cap PvP. NS lol-cynos its JFs past LS. NS doesnt care what you do in LS, nor have interest in LS cap PvP as long as they can continue doing so. As others have pointed out, NS can flood LS with fleets should it wish to do so. Currently they have no interest in LS, except as a fly-over sector to and from HS. You would think it is possible someone could remember what they actually wrote. Salvos Rhoska wrote: The primary problem is JFs lol-cynoing past LS between HS-NS. Secondary problem is caps in LS, especially with cyno, as overkill, and strongly favoring NS neighbors. It isn't me inferring anything and your claim about caps in lowsec was separate to the stupid point about jump freighters. You clearly said, 'Secondary problem is caps in LS, especially with cyno, as overkill, and strongly favouring NS neighbours". Your words. Post your evidence of STFU, because you have no clue what you are talking about (as usual). Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1613	Posted - 2017.03.30 07:45:43 - [25] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: Salvos Rhoska wrote: The primary problem is JFs lol-cynoing past LS between HS-NS. Secondary problem is caps in LS, especially with cyno, as overkill, and strongly favoring NS neighbors. It isn't me inferring anything. You clearly said, 'Secondary problem is caps in LS, especially with cyno, as overkill, and strongly favouring NS neighbours". If NS wanted to eradicate every single player structure in all of LS, they could do it, and especially with cap superiority. You are again making the false inference that NS currently even bothers with LS as anything other than a fly-over sector. The "overkill" refers to PvE content local to LS, which is tiered as such that caps are overkill for completing them. Oh so now it's LS PVE strongly favours NS neighbours. Your arguments getting dumber and dumber every time you post. You should just admit that you have no clue what you are talking about, that this 'strong favouring NS neighbours' BS is complete rubbish and at least save face. If it strongly favours NS neighbours, there would be evidence of it. Post it. Stop this dodging rubbish with non-sensical arguments and post some actual evidence that these cynos strongly favour NS neighbours bringing caps to LS. Hell, even do it for PVE, since you can't for PVP. Show how dominant PVE in LS is and how it so strongly favours NS coming to LS. Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."

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